SCAM: PUATraining

Website: www.puatraining.com
Author: Richard La Ruina (Gambler)
Company: PUA Training Limited
Rating: SCAM! AVoid At All Costs!

PUATraining is a workshop and product distributor based out of the UK. They are relatively “new” on the Seduction scene, but already, their “shady” business practices are already making waves.

Most of the criticism is directed at the company’s head, Richard La Ruina, otherwise known by his nickname “Gambler.”

Most of the criticism of the company stems from the fact that people claim Gambler is a “fake,” another so-called “pick up guru” who can’t get women himself.

Apparently, Mr. Ruina is a pretty good looking guy, but his personality is such that he turns women off. Many people, reportedly close to Mr. Ruina, claim that he doesn’t practice what he preaches, and he is pretty much in business for the sake of making money only.

In addition to that – as with all cases where the guru is a faker – a great deal of the products PUATraining sells are re-packaged and re-hashed material from other, better, pick up instructors.

In my experience buying PUATraining courses, the exact same information can be found from teachers like Mystery, Neil Strauss, David DeAngelo, and others.

Nothing PUATraining teaches is new or original. It’s just re-packaged from other sources (and in each case, you’d be better off going directly to the source of the original material.)

Not only that, but PUATraining has been harshly criticized by many merchants for stealing articles witten by other dating advice coaches, and changing them to appear as though they came from the company.

In once instance, a website “sponsored” by PUATraining used the articles of other companies to link back to the PUATraining site, in an effort to raise it’s ranking in the search engines, violating copyright law.

PUATraining is also a workshop business, and in many cases, they have recieved criticism from students about instructors who have no business teaching people how to get chicks because they themselves can’t. (This is a common problem with workshop companies)

There is only one instance, where one of their instructors – a man by the name of Adam Lyons – consistently gets good reviews, which are displayed prominently in PUATraining’s marketing material. However, from what I understand, Adam Lyons is a freelancer and not actually employed by PUATraining.

All this leads my to give PUATraining a heavy SCAM ranking.

Final Verdict: STAY AWAY!!!!!!

The company on the whole seems on the level, however the man in charge and the products they sell reek of FRAUD. Don’t waste

your time. Instead, check out the only three dating advice

products I recommend:

#1. The Art Of Approaching (Most Recommended – Must Buy)

#2. Double Your Dating

#3. Alpha Confidence

You can’t go wrong with these three.

Stay safe,

Jim Jones

SCAM: Speed Seduction

Website: www.speed-seduction.net
Author: Ross Jeffries
Company: Ghita Inc.
Rating: SCAM! Avoid At All Costs!!!!

Speed Seduction is one of the earliest incarnations of dating advice for men to be found on the internet. Since the early 90’s, creator Ross Jeffries has been going on talk shows and doing interviews to try and get unsuspecting men to sign up for his courses.

Now, to be fair, everything we’ve seen about how Ross Jeffries does business is on the level. Products get shipped out in a timely fashion, customer support is easily accessible, and refunds are made in a timely fashion.

In one case, a product I ordered had a mis-labeled disk in it, which was actually a repeat of a different disk in the series. When I called up to complain and report the issue, I was sent out a new replacement disk immediately.

So the fault in Speed Seduction isn’t in the way Mr. Jeffries conducts business, rather it’s in the information he chooses to sell.

The concept behind Speed Seduction is that you can use a science called Neuro Linguistic Programming to “hypnotize” a woman into feeling attraction for you and getting her into bed.

You use pre-designed hypnotic routines, weasel phrases, anchors, modalities, and a bunch of other gobbely-gook to achieve this goal.

First off – the production value on all of Speed Seduction’s materials is rather amateurish. Some of it was recorded in a garage in the early 90’s, and it sounds like it.

The technology behind Neuro Linguistic Programming (or NLP) seems sound enough. It’s about structuring your language patters to evoke specific emotional responses from your subjects.

Unfortuneately, when it comes to dating, it just doesn’t work.

On a wide scale, everyone who has used Speed Seduction to attract women have reported untold problems and outright failures when using the method.

Top students, students who had claimed to have gotten it to work in the past, now deride the method as being “too complicated” and “not effective enough,” and have moved on to better systems of seduction.

Average and intermediate students report to have great difficulties getting the system to work at all. Complaints of “too much memorization” abound, since the whole endeavor centers around regurgitating awkward routines which are supposed to hypnotize a girl.

(And trust me, some of these routines are loooong.)

Not only that, but you get a lot of really lame subversive attempts to embed hypnotic commends with women. Like saying things such as:

“My best ideas come from above me, but sometimes they come from b-low me.” (Mispronounce below as “blow” and then point at your penis).

Indeed, in addition to all the outright criticism of Speed Seduction itself, it’s creator, Ross Jeffries, is surrounded in so much controversy, he alone is reason enough to stay away from his method.

There are numerous reports floating around that Ross Jeffries can’t even get his system to work for himself, and he resorts to either “acting gay” or outright embarrassing stunts to get the attention of women. One report has him getting on all fours and acting like a dog to sniff a woman’s butt at a club.

He’s also been accused of relying on hookers for female companionship by former friends, claiming they never see him with a girl he’s not paying for. Whether this is true or not, I can’t verify, but the last thing I want to do is learn how to get chicks from a guy who relies on hookers for companionship.

Other students, who have paid to be hypnotized by Ross Jeffries personally, report great dissatisfaction with the end result. In one case, a student reports “It did nothing and was a waste of money,” and in another case, a student claims “I left feeling more messed up than I did when I went in.”

Ross Jeffries likes to try and deflect any criticism about his success with women (which he is constantly challenged on) by claiming it doesn’t matter what kind of success he has, that he’s a good teacher of the material. However, the material itself is flawed, and who wants to learn from a man who can’t make his system work for himself?

Ross has also been widely criticized for trying to inject elements of his own “religion” into his system, telling students to rely on “huna”, “metaphysics”, and “energy manipulation” to get women attracted to them.

Obviously, a great deal of this methodology is complete, outright B.S. Claims that Ross Jeffries wants his students to see him as some type of “cult leader” abound, and it’s not hard to believe based on what I’m seeing here.

Not only that, but a great deal of Ross Jeffries marketing materials are blatantly false and misleading. Ross Jeffries himself admits to this while on the Dr. Phil show. During the show, one woman exclaimed she felt extremely “creeped out” by him. (Not exactly what you want to hear with a teacher of seduction.)

You can see Mr. Jeffries admit his false advertising on the Dr. Phil video here.

In the same video, you can see him lie about what he teaches. He claims he’s not teaching guys how to hypnotize women, when all his sales material (and even his course material) says otherwise.

In my personal test with Speed Seduction, I met with very poor results. The hypnotic patterns and language structure taught in the course does not go with how normal people talk at all, and it comes out as awkward.

Often times, you’re just looking for some opportunity to recite one of the patterns you spent hours learning. And when you do, they never work as they are supposed to. Typically, the girl’s reaction is akin to “Yeah, whatever,” and then she moves on.

When trying to do the proper voice tone and inflection (ie: they “hypno-voice” taught in the course), I had one girl ask me why I was talking so weird.

The use of Speed Seduction turned otherwise regular interactions with girls into something creepy and unnatural. I actually felt BAD about using these methods on girls, and even worse when I saw they got no result and I had basically blown a chance with a chick by using something so stupid to try and “seduce” her.

Can Speed Seduction work? Probably. There are reports of students getting it to do what it’s supposed to. But most of these students also claim to had to create and memorize upwards of 300 hypnotic routines to do so. This is a situation where you just bombard the woman into sleeping with you.

In addition to that, there are reports of “high buyers remorse” from women who do fall for Speed Seduction tactics. Numerous “successful” students talk about how they lose a girl after the initial lay because she was weirded out by the experience. Critics of Speed Seduction claim that when you use NLP to bypass a girl’s critical factors to get her to sleep with you, they will flare up once the deed is done and judge you harshly. So even by getting her into bed, you lose her in the long run.

All this goes towards me giving this system the SCAM stamp.

Final Verdict: STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The information might work, but there are better systems out there. Cheaper, more effective systems (the basic Speed Seduction Course runs upwards of $250!). Don’t waste your time with this hocus pocus. Instead, check out the only three dating advice

products I recommend:

#1. The Art Of Approaching (Most Recommended – Must Buy)

#2. Double Your Dating

#3. Alpha Confidence

You can’t go wrong with these three.

Stay safe,

Jim Jones

SCAM: Real Social Dynamics

Website: www.realsocialdynamics.com
Author: Tyler Durden
CompanY: Real Social Dynamics Inc.
Rating: SCAM! Avoid At All Costs!

Some of you may recognize the company Real Social Dynamics, and it’s “leader” Tyler Durden from the book The Game. At least, that’s how I first became aware of them.

In the book, author Neil Strauss paints Tyler and his buddies at Real Social Dynamics as the bad guys. But despite this, I wanted to give them a chance.

Sadly – I should have paid heed to Mr. Strauss’s warnings.

Real Social Dymanic’s primary business is that of a workshop business – in short, they take men out into the field and show them how to meet girls.

But they also sell a number of products. Mostly DVD and CD courses.

We’ll cover each on of these in turn.

The Workshops

I took a Real Social Dynamics workshop. It was expensive to do so. $2000 – $500 of which you have to pay upfront.

Once you get into the workshop proper, you are bunched in with a large group of men – seriously, it seems like they try and pack as many people into their sessions as possible. I’d have to say there’s 1 instructor for every 10 guys. As you can probably surmise, it’s hard to get any good one-on-one time with those numbers.

Not only that, but the instructors don’t seem much more proficient than the students. There are numerous reports of Real Social Dynamics using former students who are still virgins to teach workshops so they can get as many paying customers as they can into each session.

They also refuse to give you a refund if you found your workshop experience to be poor (as I did). There are numerous reports about Real Social Dynamics intimidating students to give them good reviews, by having the instructor stand over the student and tell him what to write on his application.

Real Social Dynamics also seems to like to teach their instructors to trick students into thinking they had a good workshop experience, as evidenced here and here.

Real Social Dynamics also has a history of fraud when it comes to their marketing and customer support. Check out this Rip Off Report from a dissatisfied customer:

Real Social Dynamics Rip Off Report

Now onto their products…

The Products

The products Real Social Dynamics put out definitely look professional. But most of them are talking-head seminar material with VERY little practical information.

A lot of the speakers in the products offer very little in terms of practical application that will help guys succeed with women. I found a great many of the Real Social Dynamic products to deal mostly with philosophy and personal anecdotes.

That’s not to say the speakers aren’t entertaining or engaging. They are. But the content just isn’t there to justify the price.

However – I was able to easily get a refund for all my product purchases.

Final Verdict: STAY AWAY!!!!!!

There is just too much controversy surrounding this company. Their workshops and products are expensive, and they have a history of screwing over their customers. Don’t waste your time. Instead, check out the only three dating advice products I recommend:

#1. The Art Of Approaching (Most Recommended – Must Buy)

#2. Double Your Dating

#3. Alpha Confidence

You can’t go wrong with these three.

Stay safe,

Jim Jones

SCAM: Area 51 Lifestyle

Website: www.area51lifestyle.com
Author: Mike Long
Company: Unknown
Rating: SCAM! Avoid At All Costs!

If you’ve ever read the book The Game or watched VH1’s television show The Pick Up Artist, you may have heard of Mystery.

One of the self-proclaimed greatest pick up artists in the world, Mystery has been teaching seduction and pick up since 2003. He was the first to pioneer the “workshop” method of taking men out into the field and showing them how to get chicks.

With the success of his show and break-out into the mainstream media, he released a product called Mind Of Mystery.

The product was a joint venture with a man named Mike Long, who runs the Area 51 Lifestyle website.

Mind Of Mystery sold for around $2500.

What you got when you ordered the product was a $2500 piece of crap.

First of all, Mike Long and Area 51 Lifestyle took part in some very shady marketing tactics – blately misleading ones at that.

The picture of the course, seen below, clearly shows that the product looks very professional.

Unfortuneately, the actual product looks NOTHING like that picture.

Not only that, the production quality of the product was horrible. The DVDs had no chapter breaks at all, so you couldn’t skip through the DVDs to get to the sections you wanted.

Not only that, but it’s blatently obvious that both Mystery and Mike Long are stoned or high while they are recording some of these videos.

Talk about unprofessional.

Customer Service for Area 51 is also very sketchy. There have been reports that refund requests were not heeded. (And let’s face it, $2500 is a lot not to get back if you’re unhappy!)

After doing some digging, it’s also apparent that Mike Long has a history of shady business practices.

He was kicked out of his former profession, as a professional Magic The Gathering player, for alleged cheating, and banned from competition.

There are also rumors of fraud in some of his internet marketing efforts in the home business opportunity field.

After losing all credibility in that market, he somehow hooked up with Mystery and weasled his way into the success of his brand.

After the Mind Of Mystery fiasco, Mystery’s company apparently parted ways with Area 51 Lifestyle. But that hasn’t stopped Mike Long from selling more poor quality products and videos of Mystery without his permission.

It’s obvious Mike Long is just looking to take people’s money and run, like he has in other markets he’s been in. He cares nothing for product quality or customer service, and is now resorting to ripping off other people’s materials to keep his business going.

His website does not even have a privacy policy or terms of service agreement. (Always a bad sign!)

Because of his poor reputation, blatently misleading marketing, and bad business practices, we are recommending you STAY AWAY from Area 51 Lifestyle at all costs.

Do not sign up for their newsletter, do not buy their products – unless you like getting shoddy merchandise for a super-high inflated price.

Final Verdict: SCAM! STAY AWAY!!!!

Nothing about this company is good. Don’t waste your time. Instead, check out the only three dating advice products I recommend:

#1. The Art Of Approaching (Most Recommended – Must Buy)

#2. Double Your Dating

#3. Alpha Confidence

You can’t go wrong with these three.

Stay safe,

Jim Jones

SCAM: Real World Seduction

Website: www.realworldseduction.com
Author: Swinggcat
Company: Superior Living Inc.
Rating: SCAM! Avoid At All Costs!

When I first saw the Real World Seduction website, I was intrigued. It seemed like a really “underground method” of seducing women. In fact, the whole vibe of the website seems a bit seedy, which I guess is part of the initial attraction.

The proprietor of the site, who goes by the nickname “Swinggcat,” was apparently a big-shot seducer in the early days of the seduction community.

When you read his sales material on his website, he tries really hard to convince you that his method of “push pull” is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and his teachings will make any woman attracted to you instantly.

Now, I can’t bash the product too much. Swinggcat definitely has some interesting material. But I just can’t in good faith recommend anybody purchase the products from this site for the following reasons:

1. You Can’t Download What You Purchase.

There is a long, long history of people who have bought the Real World Seduction course and were never able to download it. And those who did download it weren’t able to open it!

This is because there is some type of copy protection on the ebook that requires an activation code to access it.

The problem? Well, after you buy YOU NEVER GET THE ACTIVATION CODE!

So there you are, stuck with a book you just paid upwards of $40 for that you can’t read.

Strike 1.

2. No Customer Support – EVER.

There is a horrible lack of customer support over at Real World Seduction. If you have a problem, good luck getting in touch with anyone. Phone calls go unanswered (a mysterious female voice thanks you for calling Real World Seduction, and asks you to leave a message that will never be returned), and emails go unread.

When I had a problem accessing my course, I emailed the support email upwards of 10 times – once a day for 10 days.

No answer. Ever.

Strike 2.

3. Bad about giving refunds

After feeling rather taken advantage of, I called up and emailed again, demanding my money back. Again, each request went UNANSWERED.

So I end up buying a book that I can’t read. Perfect. That’s really going to help me “attract women.”

Strike 3 – You’re out!!!!

Funny enough, you never stop getting Swinggcat’s emails asking you to buy MORE of his products, though. Only thsi time, instead of $40, he’s asking you to shell out $250 and up.

I am not alone in this bad experience either. The internet is riddled with angry reviews about the lack of customer support and bad business practices by Real World Seduction.

Final Verdict: STAY AWAY!!!!

The information might be good, but the company isn’t. Don’t waste your time. Instead, check out the only three dating advice products I recommend:

#1. The Art Of Approaching (Most Recommended – Must Buy)

#2. Double Your Dating

#3. Alpha Confidence

You can’t go wrong with these three.

Stay safe,

Jim Jones